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Animalrights.Net Forum: Recent Posts http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Animalrights.Net Forum: Recent Posts en Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:29:27 +0000 Wayne Stollings on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-144 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:39:57 +0000 Wayne Stollings 144@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Hi Wayne : "The problems are related to significant differences in humans" Indeed - and it is the significant differences between humans and animals which makes animal testing so unsafe! Not really as the drugs are tested on PEOPLE before they are released onto the market and if that final series of tests do not show a problem why is it then unsafe because of the prior testing? The bias is clearly the only connection to the two since the human based tests are conveniently ignored. "interaction with other medications, or a combination of these and/or other variables." References please - to the effect that all the problems reported were caused by these and not the drugs alone. You have provided the references in the initial post. If there are only problems with a very few people taking the drugs the reason must be 'related to significant differences in humans, interaction with other medications, or a combination of these and/or other variables' right? <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/127638" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/127638</a> Between about 1955 and 1970, some 100,000 Japanese were diagnosed as having subacute myelooptic neuropathy (SMON), a new disease characterized by abdominal and neurological manifestations, the former nearly always preceding the latter. Circumstantial evidence obtained in 1969-70 suggested that SMON might have been caused by clioquinol (CQL), a gastrointestinal disinfectant, and led to the suspension of further sales of CQL in Japan. However, several inconsistencies for the CQL theory of SMON have now emerged; first, CQL had been widely used in Japan for nearly 20 years before SMON occurred. <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D03E0DD1739F936A35750C0A965948260" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9D03E0DD1739F936A35750C0A965948260</a> Since the drug was approved for sale two years ago, the McNeil Pharmaceutical Company of Sterling House, Pa., a Johnson & Johnson subsidiary, has sold 15 million prescriptions. The F.D.A. is concerned that it may be overused. Robert Andrews, a spokesman, said Johnson & Johnson's decision to withdraw the drug was based on an ''apparent increase in the number of allergic reactions'' in the last month. Johnson & Johnson is asking consumers to return Zomax to drugstores for a refund. In two years, the company has had reports of 1,100 reactions and five deaths. ''We think the nonfatal reaction of one in 15,000 is rare,'' Mr. Grigg of the F.D.A said, ''and less common than allergic reactions to penicillin.'' Two of the people who died are known to have been allergic to non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, the class to which Zomax belongs. "As for contacting Vasu, no thanks." Lol - I'm not surprised! Good, picking a fight between two other people is usually not easy. "I suspect he already has been told and just wishes to try to ignore it." And your references to this claim are ? My suspicions are based on common sense. If he has provided this belief in any open forum I am sure the truth had to have been pointed out to him, just like it has been pointed out to you and you still want to ignore it. Dave on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-143 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:46:46 +0000 Dave 143@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Hi Wayne : "The problems are related to significant differences in humans" Indeed - and it is the significant differences between humans and animals which makes animal testing so unsafe! "interaction with other medications, or a combina tion of these and/or other variables." References please - to the effect that all the problems reported were caused by these and not the drugs alone. "As for contacting Vasu, no thanks." Lol - I'm not surprised! "I suspect he already has been told and just wishes to try to ignore it." And your references to this claim are ? Wayne Stollings on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-142 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:23:34 +0000 Wayne Stollings 142@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ I will give you a couple off the top .... "The notoriously dangerous drugs thalidomide and DES were tested in animals and released. Tens of thousands suffered and died as a result." The drug was tested but NOT for that use. "Clioquinol, an antidiarrheal, passed tests in rats, cats, dogs and rabbits. It was pulled off the shelves all over the world in 1982 after it was found to cause blindness and paralysis in humans." "Opren, an arthritis medication, killed 61 people. Over 3500 cases of severe reactions have been documented. Opren had been tested on monkeys and other animals without problems." "Zomax, another arthritis drug, killed 14 people and caused many more to suffer." All three drugs were tested on humans in clinical trials before being put on the market. The problems were not found in the human based trials. The problems are related to significant differences in humans, interaction with other medications, or a combina tion of these and/or other variables. If there is no problem found in human clinical trials what should be used as a test based for drugs? As for contacting Vasu, no thanks. If he posts here I will be happy to point out his errors for him although I suspect he already has been told and just wishes to try to ignore it. Dave on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-141 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:52:52 +0000 Dave 141@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Hi Wayne Would you like to point out the 'half truths or misrepresentations' ? Also, feel free to discuss with Vasu Murti, the author of the piece. His contact details are <a href="mailto:vm@vasumurti.org.">vm@vasumurti.org.</a> Oh, and be sure to post the responses here when you point out the 'half truths or misrepresentations' to him too! Wayne Stollings on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-140 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:19:04 +0000 Wayne Stollings 140@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ The scientific fraud is the presentation of various supposed failures as if there were one singular cause in the research on animals. Some of the claims are plain lies while others are merely half truths or misrepresentations. Dave on "Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. Vasu Murti" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/vivisection-is-scientific-fraud-vasu-murti#post-139 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:14:42 +0000 Dave 139@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Smoking was once thought non-carcinogenic because smoking-related cancer is difficult to reproduce in lab animals. Many continued to smoke and to die from cancer. Benzene was not withdrawn from use as an industrial chemical despite clinical and epidemiological evidence that exposure caused leukemia in humans, because manufacturer-supported tests failed to reproduce leukemia in mice. Animal experiments on rats, hamsters, guinea pigs, mice, monkeys, and baboons revealed no link between glass fibers and cancer. Not until 1991, due to human studies, did the government label it carcinogenic. Though arsenic was a known human carcinogen for decades, scientists still found little evidence in animals to support the conclusion as late as 1977. This was the accepted view until it was produced in lab animals. Many continued to be exposed to asbestos and die because scientists could not reproduce the cancer in lab animals. Pacemakers and heart valves were delayed in development because of physiological differences between animals they were designed on and humans. Animal models of heart disease failed to show that a high cholesterol and high fat diet increases the risk of coronary artery disease. Instead of switching to a vegetarian or vegan diet to prevent the disease, people continued their lifestyles with a false sense of security. Patients received medications that were harmful and/or ineffective due to animal models of stroke. Animal studies predicted that beta-blockers would not lower blood pressure. This withheld their development. Even animal experimenters admitted the failure of animal models of hypertension in this regard, but in the meantime, there were thousands more stroke victims. Over half of the 198 new medications released between 1976 and 1985 were either withdrawn or relabeled secondary to severe unpredicted side effects. These side effects included complications like lethal dysrhythmias, heart attacks, kidney failure, seizures, respiratory arrest, liver failure, and stroke, among others. Flosint, an arthritis medication, was tested on rats, monkeys and dogs; all tolerated the medication well. In humans, however, it caused deaths. Zelmid, an antidepressant, was tested on rats and dogs without incident. It caused severe neurological problems in humans. Nomifensine, another antidepressant, was linked to kidney and liver failure, anemia, and death in humans. Animal testing had given it a clean, side effect-free bill of health. Clioquinol, an antidiarrheal, passed tests in rats, cats, dogs and rabbits. It was pulled off the shelves all over the world in 1982 after it was found to cause blindness and paralysis in humans. Eraldin, a medication for heart disease, caused 23 deaths despite the fact that no harmful effects could be shown in animals. When introduced, scientists said it noted for the thoroughness of the toxicity studies on animals. It caused blindness and deaths in humans. Afterwards, scientists were unable to reproduce these results in animals. Opren, an arthritis medication, killed 61 people. Over 3500 cases of severe reactions have been documented. Opren had been tested on monkeys and other animals without problems. Zomax, another arthritis drug, killed 14 people and caused many more to suffer. The dose of isoproterenol, a medication used to treat asthma, was worked out in animals. Unfortunately, it was much too toxic for humans. Thirty five hundred asthmatics died in Great Britain alone due to overdose. It is still difficult to reproduce these results in animals. Methysergide, a medication used to treat headaches, led to retroperitoneal fibrosis, or severe scarring of the heart, kidneys, and blood vessels in the abdomen. Scientists have been unable to reproduce this in animals. Suprofen, an arthritis drug, was withdrawn from the market when patients suffered kidney toxicity. Prior to its release researchers had this to say about the animal tests: "...excellent safety profile. No ...cardiac, renal, or CNS [central nervous system] effects in any species." Cylert (pemoline), a medication used to treat Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder, caused liver failure in 13 children. Eleven either died or needed a liver transplant. The diet drug combination of fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine was linked to heart valve abnormalities and taken off the market although animal studies "had never revealed heart abnormalities." The diabetes medication troglitazone, better known as Rezulin, was tested on animals without significant problems, but caused liver damage in humans. The company admitted that at least one patient had died and another had to undergo a liver transplant as a result. Despite the ineffectiveness of penicillin in his rabbits, Alexander Fleming used the antibiotic on a very sick patient since he had nothing else to try. Luckily, Fleming's initial tests were not on guinea pigs or hamsters--it kills them. Howard Florey, the Nobel Prize winner credited with co-discovering and manufacturing penicillin, stated: "How fortunate we didn't have these animal tests in the 1940s, for penicillin would probably never been granted a license, and possibly the whole field of antibiotics might never have been realized." The notoriously dangerous drugs thalidomide and DES were tested in animals and released. Tens of thousands suffered and died as a result. Animal experiments misinformed researchers about how rapidly HIV replicates. Based on this false information, patients did not receive prompt therapies and their lives were shortened. Animal-based research delayed the development of the polio vaccine, according to Dr. Albert Sabin, its inventor. The first rabies and polio vaccines worked well on animals but crippled or killed the people who tried them. Researchers who work with animals have succumbed to illness and death due to exposure to diseases that though harmless to the animal host (such as Hepatitis-B), kill humans. Time, funding, and resources devoted to animal experiments could have gone to human-based research. Clinical studies, in vitro research, autopsies, post-marketing drug surveillance, computer modeling, epidemiology, and genetic research pose no hazard to humans and provide accurate results. Importantly, animal experiments have exhausted resources that could have been dedicated to educating the public about health hazards and health maintenance, therein diminishing the incidence of diseases that require treatment. Vivisection is scientific fraud. Animal experimentation does not make sense. Human-based science prevents disease and creates valid therapies. gaiaisi on "Operation McSabotage" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/operation-mcsabotage#post-137 Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:39:41 +0000 gaiaisi 137@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Hey Friends, I just released an anti-McDonalds music video, actually a playful, but lyrically relentless assault on the entire fast food industry. See it @ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m26kCl1TjPY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m26kCl1TjPY</a> If you like it please help spread the boycott and the truth about their murderous business by embedding the video, sharing, rating, favoriting it etc. There's also a "Supersized Version" (www.gaiaisi.org) That exposes the positive side of things, this is a short film where we go into my urban garden, talk about ecological-food issues, go into the kitchen to cook up a meal to give out at McDonalds after the video, and try and get people feeling better about eating well instead of feeling guilty about killing themselves. Thanks for fighting the beast, peace helpchien on "Importing animals and the law" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/importing-animals-and-the-law#post-132 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:32:39 +0000 helpchien 132@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ My dog called Chien has had to go into quarantine after already waiting 6 months in France previously and has all his paperwork in order. The reason they would not let him in is because his initial rabies jab was completed the day before his microchip was fitted, now whilst DEFRA say this must be completed in this order, form reading the staturoy instrument regarding the importation of animals myself i don't think it states a specific order for vaccination and microchip. therefore i'm desperately trying to get him out of quarantine. its a horrific place, prisoners are treated better than animals in quarantine. 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I believe that auctions such as these not only legitimse poaching but may increase the demand for ivory. Who is tracking where the ivory comes from and what happens to it once it is bought? What does any one else think? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znAofBdTBYA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znAofBdTBYA</a> Isanne on "Petition: Horse made to carry lion in Chinese circus" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/petition-horse-made-to-carry-lion-in-chinese-circus#post-126 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:41:29 +0000 Isanne 126@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ PS: Please make sure that your comments are non offensive to the Chinese. If so, the signature would have to be disgregarded and that would be a shame. thank you Isanne on "Petition: Horse made to carry lion in Chinese circus" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/petition-horse-made-to-carry-lion-in-chinese-circus#post-124 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:35:53 +0000 Isanne 124@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ At a zoo in South East China, a horse is forced to carry a lion around an enclosure. The horse is kept in motion by a trainer with a whip; this horse has no choice but to perform. In order for the horse to perform these brutal acts it had to be subjected to torturous training, stripping it of all its natural instincts. Furthermore, the horse endures continual pain as the lion claws the horse's body to maintain its balance. As the first stunt does not completely satisfy the crowds' lust for cruelty, a tiger now climbs onto the same horse's back to be carried around the enclosure, all this at the trainers command. The applauding spectators take pleasure in these terrifying and humiliating stunts and show no regard for these animals' welfare. Not only is this horse subjected to this terrifying and unnatural performance, but the conditions in which it and other animals live are poor and inhumane, living in small cages in solitary confinement. We fear that when this horse is no longer able to perform, she will be retired to a hungry pride of lions in yet another dreadful form of "entertainment" called live feeding. A cruel end to a beautiful and submissive animal. Please do not allow this horse or any others to become another of China's victims and sign this petition. By doing so you will be giving the voiceless a voice. Please visit: <a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/hope-for-horse-made-to-carry-lion" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/hope-for-horse-made-to-carry-lion</a> heather baldwin on "Help! Wrongful vet prescriptions killed kitten." http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/help-wrongful-vet-prescriptions-killed-kitten#post-123 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:28:01 +0000 heather baldwin 123@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ So sorry for your loss. Vets killed our St. Bernard with meds. Read my post. Something needs to be done to regulate vets giving meds that may be potentially harmful to animals, or atleast give us, the owners, the side effects & let US make the decision whether or not to risk their life. heather baldwin on "Rimadyl killed out St.Bernard, vets never warned us of side effects." http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/rimadyl-killed-out-stbernard-vets-never-warned-us-of-side-effects#post-122 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:13 +0000 heather baldwin 122@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Our 7 yr. old St. Bernard Kobe was seen on Oct. 1 by the local emergency vet for hot-spots. They gave him a 2 week prescription of Rimadyl (by Pfizer), or generic name Novox. He took the full prescription no problem and show good signs of recovery. Rimadyl was prescribed as a pain reliever. On the weekend of October 18, we returned home to find him not walking at all, dragging his hind legs, not eating, heavy / deep breathing, more or less, appeared to be paralyzed. We had first thought he hurt his hips somehow over the weekend. I took him to the vet again on Oct. 20, telling our vet of his symptoms. They took a few Xrays & did some blood work. They said he most likely sprained his hip & will be fine. They loaded him up on Rimadyl again. Wednesday, October 22, I returned home from work to find him dead in our back yard. Our family was devastated. He was a very healthy & VERY active 7 yr old dog. We dropped him off that night at a local Pet Crematory where we had his ashes put into an urn. From that evening to present, my husband & I have done countless research on what happened to Kobe. After typing in the drug 'Rimadyl' into a search engine, we were astonished of the outcome. Thousands of people who've lost their pet the same way, the same symptoms, everything. No remorse whatsoever from the vets on our situation. After more research, we found out the vets receive 'perks' or kickbacks from Pfizer for prescribing Rimadyl for everything from family vacations to lap top computers & mp3 players. We don't know what to do now. We never got the chance to get an autopsy performed, even though we requested that they wait before doing anything with the body until morning. His body was immediately put into a freezer before an autopsy could be preformed. What do we do now? We know we are not the only ones going thru this now. We even called our breeder we bought Kobe from. They had one of their dogs (Missy) die with the EXACT same side effects as Kobe. Guess what? Their dog was prescribed Rimadyl approx. 3 weeks before Missy died. Do a search online for anything with 'Rimadyl' in the heading, & you'll be amazed at what pops up. HELP! briancarnell on "News Subsite" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/news-subsite#post-121 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:02:05 +0000 briancarnell 121@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Since I still don't find I have the time to return to blogging about animal rights, I've created a news subsite -- <a href="http://www.animalrights.net/news/">http://www.animalrights.net/news</a> -- which is basically a Digg clone. I'll be posting links to news stories related to AR and others are free to submit and discuss stories there as well. There are some anti-spam filters in place there, so spam should be kept to a minimum. kokorocks on "Do your parents support you?" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/do-your-parents-support-you#post-113 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:38:10 +0000 kokorocks 113@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Do do your parents support you if you are a vegetarian or like with PETA? My parents are totally not okay with my being a vegetarian they kinda make fun of my for it. They won't let me join PETA they say the people there are crazy :\ Sockeye on "Jane Goodall urges eventual eradication of lab-chimps" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/jane-goodall-urges-eventual-eradication-of-lab-chimps#post-112 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:52:40 +0000 Sockeye 112@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Jane Goodall urges a better treatment of chimps (housing, social, opportunity for play) while they are in the lab. She also urges non-duplication of studies as well as a ban on testing house hold products and cosmetics. Wouldn't any sane, intelligent, even somewhat humane person agree? <a href="http://www.janegoodall.org/chimp_central/conservation/issues/in_research.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.janegoodall.org/chimp_central/conservation/issues/in_research.asp</a> Sockeye on "Sarah Palin aka Moose Killer" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/sarah-palin-aka-moose-killer#post-111 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:37:02 +0000 Sockeye 111@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ It seems many are against Palin just because she is a woman. It would seem that you are. There are many men who have toddlers at home that need caring for and are not criticized for leaving them at home for someone else to care for. Why do you critisize Palin for doing the same? I'm not a Palin/McCAin supporter - but certainly not for the same reasons you've expressed here. Sockeye on "Wild Horses" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/wild-horses#post-110 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:30:54 +0000 Sockeye 110@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ What is the land that may otherwise be available for the horses being used for? Has the horse pop increased over recent years? Why was this not an issue 10 years ago? What are the factors involved? Have you looked at this issue in-depth x-man? Aviva on "Help! Wrongful vet prescriptions killed kitten." http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/help-wrongful-vet-prescriptions-killed-kitten#post-109 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:39:41 +0000 Aviva 109@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Okay: Short story. Seven week old kitten, underweight with fleas/mites. Vet prescribed her with three different meds, two of those were for fleas. She gave half doses but, kitten was too young and weighed too little for some of the meds. She died a few hours after the vet appointment when we were driving to a 24 hour emergency vet clinic (after hours for local vets). We are not certain if we can honestly do anything but, we'd at least like to maybe share our story with a local animal rights group. We're trying to locate one but, haven't found much info yet (this just happened on Friday). If anyone has advice to help us it would be much appreciated. Our kitten has died and we know it was unintentional on the vet's part but, we'd like to prevent this from happening to another kitten and it's human "parents". We only had her for one week but, we loved her and started bonding from the moment we met her at the animal shelter. Longer story with more details below. ------------------------------- We adopted our kitten from a shelter when she was just six weeks old. Just a few days later she started showing symptoms of an upper respiratory infection, a fairly common diagnosis. We took her to the vet because we wanted our baby to be happy and healthy. Admittedly, she was underweight and had fleas/ear mites but, we were feeding her and she was too young/small for most treatments. Before the appointment, she had been fairly responsive and happy even with her yucky nose. The vet wanted to put her on an antibiotic for the URI and two different flea treatments. We specifically asked if the meds would be all right for our kitten since she was only seven weeks old and underweight. She blatantly lied and said that Advantage Multi was okay for our kitten, even specifically saying it was approved from week seven. They gave her half doses of all of the meds since she was underweight. After the vet, she was barely responsive but, we thought it was just because she was tired. She started having seizures about an hour after we left the vet. Banfield was already closed and the only place we found that had 24 hour emergency services was in Beech Grove (one hour, fifteen minute drive). An hour into the drive our kitten died in my boyfriend's arms. They did fax us paperwork after her death admitting that our kitten was younger and smaller than the drug manufacturer's recommendations for usage. They apologized and refunded our money for "good will" purposes but, that will not bring our baby girl back. whitemixgirl on "snake" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/snake#post-108 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:49:31 +0000 whitemixgirl 108@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ how are they as pets? whitemixgirl on "Sarah Palin aka Moose Killer" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/sarah-palin-aka-moose-killer#post-107 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:45:15 +0000 whitemixgirl 107@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ I saw Sarah Palin on the front of the new Newsweek magazine... She is standing there with a shot gun hanging over her shoulder... What a laugh!!! Like that is suppose to appeal to gun owners??? and to Evangelical Christians??? Do we really need a woman as VP who wants to put forth an image of "running with the boys", when she professes to be someone who doesn't run with the boys in Washington... She looks like a soccer-mom who is trying to be tough in a way that is so transparent. So what if she can shoot a moose or a beautiful caribou? that in itself is another subject... that does not qualify her for VP nor does it give her experience in handling the many problems that she would face if she were to become Pres. after McCain's death (if he were Pres.)... This whole thing with Palin is going to be McCain's downfall (along with his own sad and false persona)... Where are her own words as to what she will do for this country... she only seems to be able to speak the same words over and over, word for word from her acceptance speech which was written for her... why can't she speak on her own??? The real reason, and it will come out soon, she doesn't really like McCain and they are afraid she will say something against him or that she might say something that will backfire on him... She needs to go back to Alaska, play Governor for a little longer and then retire to take care of the special needs child she chose to bring into this world, who will need a whole lot more care than her normal kids. How could she be so un-motherly as to parade that child (and all her children) around... like I said, she is still breast feeding and if you are a mother you know how demanding normal bables are with breast feeding... I am just appalled that there are so many people who are without intelligence and can't see how she was planted in hopes that women who voted for Hillary would come over to the McCain side... what do they think? People are that easily swayed??? Give me a break. "truth is the food of the wise" cjw225 on "Do you like the pandas?" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/do-you-like-the-pandas#post-106 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:39:40 +0000 cjw225 106@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ yes! cjw225 on "Do you like the pandas?" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/do-you-like-the-pandas#post-105 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:39:27 +0000 cjw225 105@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Yes, pandas are very lovely. <a href="http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com</a> cjw225 on "snake" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/snake#post-104 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:38:19 +0000 cjw225 104@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ yes. I agree cjw225 on "snake" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/snake#post-103 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:37:18 +0000 cjw225 103@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Do you like snake? Yes, I do. But i am afraid of mouse. <a href="http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com</a> cjw225 on "environment" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/environment#post-101 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:33:31 +0000 cjw225 101@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Yes. Let's love our environment. CHEAPJORDANSWHOLESALE TRADE CENTER <a href="http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com</a> cjw225 on "environment" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/environment#post-100 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:32:43 +0000 cjw225 100@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Now the global environment is worse and worse. all the wolrd people shoud protect it in real action <a href="http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com</a> cjw225 on "protect the animal" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/protect-the-animal#post-99 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:31:28 +0000 cjw225 99@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Yes. Let's do together. <a href="http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheapjordanswholesale.com</a> cjw225 on "protect the animal" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/protect-the-animal#post-98 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:30:32 +0000 cjw225 98@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Let us protect the animal. They are human's good friends. Cobie on "Mystery of the meat-eaters' molecule" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/mystery-of-the-meat-eaters-molecule#post-97 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:08:29 +0000 Cobie 97@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ For an interesting short article on Varki's work, see Nature vol 454, the July 3 issue of 2008, pp. 21-23. Cobie Cobie on "animal abuse" http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/topic/animal-abuse#post-96 Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:53:14 +0000 Cobie 96@http://www.animalrights.net/bbpress/ Can you tell us more? How do you know this? Are you a student? What is the reason animals are killed this way? What kind of animals? It is important to realize that electrical shocks may be used to stun an animal into unconsciousness, after which it is killed another way (by bleeding out, usually). It may be used thus for large animals that otherwise would need large amounts of some kind of tranquilizer or anaesthetic. While the method may sound barbarous and look unpleasant (and killing an niaml always is no matter what the method for veterinarians), if the animal is instantly unconscious after having a shock applied there is no real suffering or stress. To actually kill an animal with elctrocution, electrodes need to be placed carefully so as to be sure the shock will stop the heart; generally, this can be done only with small animals. You must really tell us more before anyone can come up with suggestions. Cobie